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Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone here could assist me and my father with my Matiz which has a problem which we intially thought would be a easy peasy fix, clearly its not!

The problem is as follows below;

*Front drivers light-Side light not working (However main beam working fine!)
*Rear drivers side -rear light not working(However brake light working fine!)
*None of the dash buttons or speedo etc illuminates up AT ALL (However Matiz interior light still works and the ALL warning lights on the instrument cluster still work!)

At first with the front side light problem we both thought the obvious...Bulb. We removed the bulb and the bulb was absolutely fine. To be sure of this we used the bulb from the right side light and conected into the left side light where it showed life meaning it was fine. We then looked at all connecter wires etc....again all fine!

So now, dad and I got serious and pulled out the Tiz's handbook and looked at the fuse for the light (Under the bonnet) where we found it to have been blown.....so we thought Hmmm this maybe the cause of the right sidelight and rear light being in-active. So it was a 10amp fuse. We replaced it with a NEW 10amp fuse and when we tried the sidelights...again no life whatsoever! We tried the sidelights upto 4 times then when we checked the newly fitted fuse....we found it got blown! What the hell....Does anyone have an idea what is maybe going on please?
Maybe.....a faulty underbonnet fuse box? I dont know nor does my father.
We then tried to address the dash not illuminating at all by checking the fuse for that which is the (inside car box, under dash) we found the fuse to be fine!

Because of these problems, dad is unable to use my Tizzy to travel to and from work as it gets dark etc....and I'm also unable to learn to drive it in any longer until this problem is sorted....dad uses his Mazda to work and I'm left just learning with my instructor.
So until this problem is sorted ASAP, my Tiz will remain sitting outside my house on its tod and not being used or loved.

URGENT HELP OR ADVICE REQUIRED PEOPLE...PLEASE.
Mine is a 2000 W reg Matiz SE PLUS (No A/C) done 87,000 miles now.

Cheers all!
Dan.

I'm no expert on this but to me it sounds as though it could be a faulty wiring harness expecially considering the fact that only half of the lights are working.

(15-08-2011 10:46 PM)lembi2001 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm no expert on this but to me it sounds as though it could be a faulty wiring harness expecially considering the fact that only half of the lights are working.

Okay then, I underatand. Thank you

Dan.

Hi Dan,

It looks like you have a shorted circuit, it could be a ground to battery+ (that I think it's unlikely because that would affect more parts of your electrical system), or a shorted battery+ to ground, that being involved in the circuitry for the driver's side.
That is the reason of the blown fuse, and that is good because that's the purpose of them burninf first otherwise the wires would burn and cause severe problems.

You have to check the wires involved and phisically check for damaged wires (I know is a big job), also, have you installed something electrical recently?

I will try to pull the prints and would point if I see something thay may help you.

Regards,

Gustavo

check each light that isint working for a short with a multi meter (continuality test) to see if it is. It might only be one wire bridging taking the fuse out or it could be one of the bulbs.

I would try taking the broken bulbs out that could be causing a short all of em. then do a continality on them first then the holders before attacking the loom.

I seem to recall there being a lot of thread inputs about a wiring loom near the alternator being susceptible to fraying and shorting ...

(16-08-2011 04:12 AM)GustavoRamirez Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Dan,

It looks like you have a shorted circuit, it could be a ground to battery+ (that I think it's unlikely because that would affect more parts of your electrical system), or a shorted battery+ to ground, that being involved in the circuitry for the driver's side.
That is the reason of the blown fuse, and that is good because that's the purpose of them burninf first otherwise the wires would burn and cause severe problems.

You have to check the wires involved and phisically check for damaged wires (I know is a big job), also, have you installed something electrical recently?

I will try to pull the prints and would point if I see something thay may help you.

Regards,

Gustavo

I totally understand, and I shall pass this info onto my father. Aha no no we haven't installed anything electrical on my Tiz. Almost everything is factory standard.

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(16-08-2011 06:56 AM)grant2258 Wrote: [ -> ]check each light that isint working for a short with a multi meter (continuality test) to see if it is. It might only be one wire bridging taking the fuse out or it could be one of the bulbs.

I would try taking the broken bulbs out that could be causing a short all of em. then do a continality on them first then the holders before attacking the loom.

Okay, cheers for that. I shall pass on the info to my father

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(16-08-2011 10:43 AM)rigster Wrote: [ -> ]I seem to recall there being a lot of thread inputs about a wiring loom near the alternator being susceptible to fraying and shorting ...

Oh right, I see okay then

A message to all though; My father recons he could fix the problem if he had the official Daewoo Matiz 'Wiring diagrams' .........dad is a consultant technician so he obviously understands those things.

Cheers all and I hope my Matiz gets sorted soon......otherwise its just going to sit outside my house not being used.

Dan.

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Just went outside and in my Matiz, and still al the faults are there
There is now two more faults would you believe!
They are;

1. Intermittent front wipers not working
and
2. One touch front wiper not working

Damn it.....

Dan.

check the relays in the fuse box under the bonnet. two of which are responsible for the lights.

also check the combo switch used to switch the lights on and off.

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c

(16-08-2011 12:28 PM)shankosi Wrote: [ -> ]check the relays in the fuse box under the bonnet. two of which are responsible for the lights.

also check the combo switch used to switch the lights on and off.

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c

Okay then, thank you. I will let my father know and he'll take a look.
Cheers

A friend of mine had the same problem but on a different make a Suzuki carrier it turned out to be the connections to the ignition barrel worth a try checking

(16-08-2011 09:13 PM)tanchattah Wrote: [ -> ]A friend of mine had the same problem but on a different make a Suzuki carrier it turned out to be the connections to the ignition barrel worth a try checking

Okay thanks for that

An UPDATE for everyone now!
My Matiz is now sorted!

Father came home with some electronic testing kits/special tools and done some testing, all seemed fine. He then replaced one of the 10amp fuses in the underbonnet fuse box....I started the car up and ALL WAS NORMAL :L
When we first replaces the fuse a day ago...why it blew...god knows tbh!
Side light on the drivers side now working, dash illumination now working and rear drivers side light now working.
I myself managed to fix the one touch and intermitent front wipers by simply pulling out the Wiper relay and simply putting it back in....how odd.
My god sometimes I think my Matiz is playing games with me!
Anyways I'm greatful she is now fixed and sorted....Also thank you all for your help and advice its all much appreciated

Dan.

Hi Dan,

Glad to hear that everything is working now.

It happened the same to me on a 94 Toyota Previa, the short circuit simply "went away" after a day or two, before that the van would not start and blown every fuse I put in.
The mech told me that what happens is that if a wire insulation is damaged it can touch something and create the problem, but if the car moves or you move the wires there's a chance that you remove the short. Sadly the problem will be latent and could come up agan anytime.

(17-08-2011 05:19 PM)GustavoRamirez Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Dan,

Glad to hear that everything is working now.

It happened the same to me on a 94 Toyota Previa, the short circuit simply "went away" after a day or two, before that the van would not start and blown every fuse I put in.
The mech told me that what happens is that if a wire insulation is damaged it can touch something and create the problem, but if the car moves or you move the wires there's a chance that you remove the short. Sadly the problem will be latent and could come up agan anytime.

Thank you
Okay I understand what you're saying. Well should the problem come back to my beloved Matiz, I wont be so shocked to death haha :L

Cheers,
Dan.